Oregonians In Action: liar, liar, pants on fire; (meanwhile, 1000 Friends snoozes)

February 11th, 2007

Check out Oregonians In Action Press Release

Governor Ted Kulongoski announced a proposal that would indefinitely suspend all Measure 37 claims

False. SB 505 would suspend SOME M37 claims for 5 months, at which time they would all be re-activated.

And since most Measure 37 claimants are elderly, many Measure 37 claims will be lost forever while the suspension is in effect.

False. SB 505 would effectively freeze in time all claim activity, and any claimants who die, well, their claims would pass along to their descendants unharmed.

It is simply unconscionable for the Governor to take away your Measure 37 claim.

False. No claims are being “taken away”. SOME are being suspended for 5 months.

Now you see how OIA successfully passed M37: through outright deceit and hysteria. The English are coming! The English are coming! Aaaaaaaaah!

1000 Friends of Oregon should learn. And learn quickly! Enough of the running around with earnest stories. Paint the picture of the apocalypse that is coming with M37 claims run amok. And if 1000 Friends doesn’t get their act together, OLCV and the other environmental orgs in Oregon that have “let 1000 Friends handle this because this is their deal” should immediately step up to the plate.

These environmental orgs in Oregon, vacuuming up huge sums of donations and doing little except for mealy-mouthed DVDs and out-of-date messages… sheesh! These folks seem stuck in a media time-warp circa 1973 circa Tom McCall. Assuming that M37 would die the same death as Measure 6 in 1982 via the same, now out-of-date messages was a fundamental, fatal flaw.

1000 Friends must bring this to urban and suburban voters to show how it impacts them! Urban voters more than likely do not care about “alpaca farmers”, but might care about how their kids’ water might be polluted, or how traffic might increase, or how sprawl will threaten the tourist and aesthetic values of Oregon?


2 Comments Add your own

  • 1. TA  |  February 16th, 2007 at 11:39 am

    I reside in West Linn Oregon and have watched my hometown turn into a contractors haven. Mini mansions with three to five car garages and long with these “developments” will come traffic, traffic that our streets cannot support.

    I have watched our city ram rod a water pipe through Wilderness Park and take no responsibility for it.

    Willamette Cove, a senior citizens community in historic Willamete, try and try again to buy the land that their homes sat on only to have the land owner sell to a contractor. Our seniors were kicked out. It was heart breaking.

    Most of West Linn’s natural areas have been so manicured they really shouldn’t be considered natural areas.

    I am not just concerned for West Linn I am concerned for Oregon and its fate.

    look to the horizon and you can see the smog line, that news casters refer to as “haze”.

    What happened to the politicians that were once so passionate about Oregon and its natural beauty? What happened to the Oregonians that were willing to put up a fight to prevent urban sprawl?

    I may not know everything about the politics regarding these matters, but I can see with my own two eyes that Oregon is heading down an unhealthy path.

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